Making your .NET language step correctly in the debugger
Firstly, I apologize for the length of this question.
I am the author of IronScheme. Recently I have been working hard on emitting decent debug info, so that I can use the 'native' .NET debugger.
While this has been partly successful, I am running into some teething problems.
The first problem is related to stepping.
Due to Scheme being an expression language, everything tends to be wrapped in parenthesis, unlike the major .NET languages which seems to be statement (or line) based.
The original code (Scheme) looks like:
(define (baz x)
(cond
[(null? x)
x]
[(pair? x)
(car x)]
[else
(assertion-violation #f "nooo" x)]))
I have on purpose laid out each expression on a newline.
The emitted code transforms to C# (via ILSpy) looks like:
public static object ::baz(object x)
{
if (x == null)
{
return x;
}
if (x is Cons)
{
return Builtins.Car(x);
}
return #.ironscheme.exceptions::assertion-violation+(
RuntimeHelpers.False, "nooo", Builtins.List(x));
}
As you can see, pretty simple.
Note: If the code was transformed into a conditional expression (?:) in C#, the whole thing would just be one debug step, keep that in mind.
Here is IL output with source and line numbers:
.method public static object '::baz'(object x) cil managed
{
// Code size 56 (0x38)
.maxstack 6
.line 15,15 : 1,2 ''
//000014:
//000015: (define (baz x)
IL_0000: nop
.line 17,17 : 6,15 ''
//000016: (cond
//000017: [(null? x)
IL_0001: ldarg.0
IL_0002: brtrue IL_0009
.line 18,18 : 7,8 ''
//000018: x]
IL_0007: ldarg.0
IL_0008: ret
.line 19,19 : 6,15 ''
//000019: [(pair? x)
.line 19,19 : 6,15 ''
IL_0009: ldarg.0
IL_000a: isinst [IronScheme]IronScheme.Runtime.Cons
IL_000f: ldnull
IL_0010: cgt.un
IL_0012: brfalse IL_0020
IL_0017: ldarg.0
.line 20,20 : 7,14 ''
//000020: (car x)]
IL_0018: tail.
IL_001a: call object [IronScheme]IronScheme.Runtime.Builtins::Car(object)
IL_001f: ret
IL_0020: ldsfld object
[Microsoft.Scripting]Microsoft.Scripting.RuntimeHelpers::False
IL_0025: ldstr "nooo"
IL_002a: ldarg.0
IL_002b: call object [IronScheme]IronScheme.Runtime.Builtins::List(object)
.line 22,22 : 7,40 ''
//000021: [else
//000022: (assertion-violation #f "nooo" x)]))
IL_0030: tail.
IL_0032: call object [ironscheme.boot]#::
'ironscheme.exceptions::assertion-violation+'(object,object,object)
IL_0037: ret
} // end of method 'eval-core(033)'::'::baz'
Note: To prevent the debugger from simply highlighting the entire method, I make the method entry point just 1 column wide.
As you can see, each expression maps correctly to a line.
Now the problem with stepping (tested on VS2010, but same/similar issue on VS2008):
These are with IgnoreSymbolStoreSequencePoints
not applied.
When applying IgnoreSymbolStoreSequencePoints
(as recommended):
I also find in this mode that some lines (not shown here) are incorrectly highlighted, they are off by 1.
Here are some ideas what could be the causes:
The second, but also serious, issue is the debugger failing to break/hit breakpoints in some cases.
The only place where I can get the debugger to break correctly (and consistantly), is at the method entry point.
The situation gets a bit better when IgnoreSymbolStoreSequencePoints
is not applied.
Conclusion
It might be that the VS debugger is just plain buggy :(
References:
Update 1:
Mdbg does not work for 64-bit assemblies. So that is out. I have no more 32-bit machines to test it on. Update: I am sure this is no big problem, does anyone have a fix? Edit: Yes, silly me, just start mdbg under the x64 command prompt :)
Update 2:
I have created a C# app, and tried to dissect the line info.
My findings:
brXXX
instruction you need to have a sequence point (if not valid aka '#line hidden', emit a nop
). brXXX
instruction, emit a '#line hidden' and a nop
. Applying this, does not however fix the issues (alone?).
But adding the following, gives the desired result :)
ret
, emit a '#line hidden' and a nop
. This is using the mode where IgnoreSymbolStoreSequencePoints
is not applied. When applied, some steps are still skipped :(
Here is the IL output when above has been applied:
.method public static object '::baz'(object x) cil managed
{
// Code size 63 (0x3f)
.maxstack 6
.line 15,15 : 1,2 ''
IL_0000: nop
.line 17,17 : 6,15 ''
IL_0001: ldarg.0
.line 16707566,16707566 : 0,0 ''
IL_0002: nop
IL_0003: brtrue IL_000c
.line 16707566,16707566 : 0,0 ''
IL_0008: nop
.line 18,18 : 7,8 ''
IL_0009: ldarg.0
IL_000a: ret
.line 16707566,16707566 : 0,0 ''
IL_000b: nop
.line 19,19 : 6,15 ''
.line 19,19 : 6,15 ''
IL_000c: ldarg.0
IL_000d: isinst [IronScheme]IronScheme.Runtime.Cons
IL_0012: ldnull
IL_0013: cgt.un
.line 16707566,16707566 : 0,0 ''
IL_0015: nop
IL_0016: brfalse IL_0026
.line 16707566,16707566 : 0,0 ''
IL_001b: nop
IL_001c: ldarg.0
.line 20,20 : 7,14 ''
IL_001d: tail.
IL_001f: call object [IronScheme]IronScheme.Runtime.Builtins::Car(object)
IL_0024: ret
.line 16707566,16707566 : 0,0 ''
IL_0025: nop
IL_0026: ldsfld object
[Microsoft.Scripting]Microsoft.Scripting.RuntimeHelpers::False
IL_002b: ldstr "nooo"
IL_0030: ldarg.0
IL_0031: call object [IronScheme]IronScheme.Runtime.Builtins::List(object)
.line 22,22 : 7,40 ''
IL_0036: tail.
IL_0038: call object [ironscheme.boot]#::
'ironscheme.exceptions::assertion-violation+'(object,object,object)
IL_003d: ret
.line 16707566,16707566 : 0,0 ''
IL_003e: nop
} // end of method 'eval-core(033)'::'::baz'
Update 3:
Problem with above 'semi-fix'. Peverify reports errors on all methods due to the nop
after ret
. I dont understand the problem really. How can a nop
break verification after a ret
. It is like dead code (except that it is NOT even code) ... Oh well, experimentation continues.
Update 4:
Back at home now, removed the 'unverifiable' code, running on VS2008 and things are a lot worse. Perhaps running unverifiable code for the sake of proper debugging might be the answer. In 'release' mode, all output would still be verifiable.
Update 5:
I have now decided my above idea is the only viable option for now. Although the generated code is unverifiable, I have yet to find any VerificationException
's. I dont know what the impact will be on the end user with this scenario.
As a bonus, my second issue has also be solved. :)
Here is a little screencast of what I ended up with. It hits breakpoints, does proper stepping (in/out/over), etc. All in all, the desired effect.
I, however, am still not accepting this as the way to do it. It feel overly-hacky to me. Having a confirmation on the real issue would be nice.
Update 6:
Just had the change to test the code on VS2010, there seems to be some problems:
Both these cases work correctly under VS2008. The main difference is that under VS2010, the entire application is compiled for .NET 4 and under VS2008, compiles to .NET 2. Both running 64-bit.
Update 7:
Like mentioned, I got mdbg running under 64-bit. Unfortunately, it also have the breakpoint issue where it fails to break if I rerun the program (this implies it gets recompiled, so not using the same assembly, but still using the same source).
Update 8:
I have filed a bug at the MS Connect site regarding the breakpoint issue.
Update: Fixed
Update 9:
After some long thinking, the only way to make the debugger happy seems to be doing SSA, so every step can be isolated and sequential. I am yet to prove this notion though. But it seems logical. Obviously, cleaning up temps from SSA will break debugging, but that is easy to toggle, and leaving them does not have much overhead.
I am an engineer on the Visual Studio Debugger team.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like the only issue left is that when switching from PDBs to the .NET 4 dynamic compile symbol format some breakpoints are being missed.
We would probably need a repro to exactly diagnose the issue, however here are some notes that might help.
The JIT creates an implicit sequence point based on the following rules: 1. IL nop instructions 2. IL stack empty points 3. The IL instruction immediately following a call instruction
If it turns out we do need a repro to solve your issue, you can file a connect bug and upload files securely through that medium.
Update:
We are encouraging other users experiencing this issue to try the Developer Preview of Dev11 from http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=27543 and comment with any feedback. (Must target 4.5)
Update 2:
Leppie has verified the fix to work for him on the Beta version of Dev11 available at http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads as noted in the connect bug https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/684089/.
Thanks,
Luke
I am an engineer on the SharpDevelop Debugger team :-)
Did you solve the problem?
Did you try to debug it in SharpDevelop? If there is a bug in .NET, I wonder if we need to implement some workaround. I am not aware of this issue.
Did you try to debug it in ILSpy? Especially without debug symbols. It would debug C# code, but it would tell us if the IL instructions are nicely debugable. (Mind that ILSpy debugger is beta though)
Quick notes on the original IL code:
David
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